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less lonely in your grief. the news continues right here on cnn tonight, a monster storm is closing in on florida. >> hurricane milton, back to a category five now as we've got the latest track and we'll take you inside this storm with a hurricane hunter also, secret calls and special deliveries. what donald trump was reportedly sneaking to volodymyr as a pandemic was ravaging the united states. and how many calls they've had since trump left office. cnn has the new details from bob woodward's new book and vice president harris tonight initially drawing a blank when she was asked what she would do differently than president biden. and then one notable change came to mind i'm kaitlan collins and this is the source battered for the second time in about as many weeks, that much

we know for sure tonight as forecast are saying that this storm could weaken, but it is expected to double in some eyes. what we don't know for sure tonight is exactly where this monster storm is going to make a direct hit that's why tonight, more than 1 million people have been ordered to evacuate forecasters. florida's governor, mayors, up and down that state are pleading with people not to mess around with this one the storm is now expected to hit as early as tomorrow night, but floridians are going to start to feel that way before then. and tonight you're seeing roads and highways jammed about a fifth of florida's gas stations are now without gas and fort myers up to 70% of the stations there have run out of fuel altogether. that's before the storm forum has even hit. so if you're watching right now and you're in an area that has been ordered to evacuate officials say that now is the time that if you try and wait until tomorrow, you may end up trapped with no power for days or longer, or your home or your

car swept away? by a storm surge cnn's isabel rosales joins me now from tampa, florida, which obviously is what we've been talking about. isabel, that it is expected to be one of the hardest hit ones we heard from the mayor last night people are still cleaning up from helene there. how concerned are they about another bitter storm hitting this close behind that one? fun race against time to evacuate that window is narrowing kaitlan. listen, this is a one-two punch for the tampa bay area. sure. helene went forward up until the big bend area up north and that was a wake-up call for just how devastating that could be with landfall nowhere for near this area. now, with this storm with milton, some here in the tampa bay area are wondering, is this the storm that they have been dreading for decades that could come right here to the tampa bay area, will know soon enough as those tracks continued to shift. and that's normal as we

get closer to this thing. but what we have seen is major concern about the figures of storm surge, right? because with helene, that was five to eight feet of storm surge around the tampa bay. well, with milton, we're looking at double that potentially. we're looking at ten to 15 feet. that is unsurvivable conditions. this is why people i've been so concerned. let me also show you a hidden danger here. this house that looks totally charred, burned down. well, neighbors pointed me to this house. they told me that an ev caught fire here and burn this to a crisp. we confirm with the tampa fire fire rescue who told us here in davis island home did go down. they couldn't confirm the exact address because of an electric vehicle. so as people are evacuating, if they're leaving behind electric vehicles were there hunkering down. this is a big concern because saltwater and ev batteries do not make this can cause very dangerous and sudden battery fires. and we're seeing right here the impact

somebody lost it's their home, kaitlan this is something i didn't even think about earlier until i saw the warning from officials in florida saying if you have an electric vehicle, get it out of the way because of exactly that house behind you, isabel rosellas on the ground in tampa will check back in with you as we get updates throughout the hour. >> i will also go to chad myers, who is in the cnn weather center, and chad the track of this storm has changed and shifted a little bit from when we spoke last night, i think a big question that people at home are watching is how much more could it change before it makes landfall? >> well, it's all about the wobbles at this point in time earlier today and wobbled about 20 miles farther to the south. so that wobble if you take it 20 miles farther to the south and then you take it on the same track. you've moved your landfall 20 miles farther to the south that could still happen to the gunmen, to the north later on tonight, this is a very compact little storm i know we talked about it maybe is getting larger in size as it gets closer to the coast. but for now, this is 165 mile per

hour, category five hurricane. that's getting more and more compact, but you still have to watch the cone its north of tampa. it's all the way down to naples. so that's the left on the right, that's still could happen by the time it makes landfall sometime tomorrow night. i mean, we're talking from now we are talking 35, maybe 33 hours for landfall. we know that it's still very strong because an airplane has been flying through it. we'd been talking to these pilots, sees captains, these majors oh, night and then what a harrowing stories are talking about, man, it was really shaken i bet it was shaken. if you're looking at a wind speed of 135 miles an hour and that's a crosswind because you're flying through the middle of the eye here is what we're going to worry about. we're talking about storm surge and it's not just a lake of water that rises in your house, gets wet this is moving water, moving with the surf, moving with the surge. and if you get it to eight feet above,

what is normal sea level, you're going to start to lose all the houses that aren't built on stilts and we're looking at ten to 15 team feet. and again, that's just not some calm body of water that's going to just kind of get your house wet. it's going to push your house into the bay behind the island. and then we're going to see winds everywhere. that's purple, 110 miles per hour or greater. we're going to see winds all the way across the entire state of hurricane force power lines we're gonna be down in many big cities and likely even cord kissimmee and in orlando. and then you have the potential for ten to 20 inches of freshwater flooding. here with this rainfall to an already floods in tampa when it's just raining much less when it's a hurricane coming. and just to see it reaching across the whole state, i think that's what is so scary and why you're hearing things that from warnings from florida officials, they say they've never had this before. chad myers, thank you for keeping an eye on it and my source tonight is the mayor of treasure island, florida, tyler pager.

thank you so much, mayor for being here. i know you're very busy and your entire community is one of those mandatory evacuation orders that we're talking about. i want people to just listen to the warning that police are playing as they are driving through the streets of your community tonight? >> emergency most people are listening to those warnings? out on an island just a couple hours ago and had an opportunity to drive around. >> and it is a ghost town. so i was very happy to see that people are heeding the warnings because as you guys have sent, this could be seriously life threatening the storm surge, our residents experienced it firsthand. and i think that that has gone a long way as to really drive home the message that it is not safe to stay on

island when we're considering or when we're looking at potential devastating storm surge it's like this. >> well, given given you just experienced storms are doing, what would you say to people who may think, maybe thinking, i can ride this out? i've dealt with this before. i mean, as someone who just went through it, what would you say to them? >> yeah. >> i'm walking into my parents house the next morning after the storm hit and seeing literally all of the furniture, it looked like a washing machine inside the house. nothing was where it was supposed to be and that was only what, two feet of water in the house. the house is completely destroyed i. was receiving pictures and videos from friends that stayed friends and neighbors that stayed on the island and they're single-story homes of them sitting at their kitchen counter with their knees up to our water, up to their knees and like we've discussed, if there's an electric vehicle or any sort of fire hazard in the home. it's really extremely unsafe conditions. and if we're

talking ten to 15 foot storm surge, that if they entire home would be underwater, there's nowhere safe to go. >> yeah. as chad was saying, the whole house could be pushed, you know, as a result of this one-two punch that we're seeing between helene and now milton. the state. i know florida has been surging resources to pinellas county to try and get rid of the debris from hurricane helene. i mean, you see the pictures of treasure island, these videos of drones flying overhead, and the amount of debris still in the ground is still remarkable right now, what is the latest in terms of how much you're worried about these debris becoming very potentially dangerous projectiles in the storm threat right now. and our city crews, as well as our contractor and the governor mobilize state resources to assist with debris cleanup, which was incredible, seeing lines of dump trucks being escorted onto the island by

state highway patrol depose was really a sight to see, but there's just so much of it is impossible to clean it all up before hurricane hits and like you said, those are going to extremely dangerous and i've worked saying hundred mile an hour winds. that's why these evacuation orders are so important, not just for the aid on treasure islands and by all so b and c, because those things can fly a very, very far distances. >> yeah mayor. >> thank you so much for joining. i know that you and your team have to be so exhausted from still dealing with the aftermath of wants torme and now dealing with another. but i really do appreciate your time. i know your community does as well. thank you so much, mayor thank you. >> have a good night and you heard chad mentioning people who are flying through this storm. >> my next source is one of the few people who has actually seen the force of it up close because captain nate ortal was at the controls when the hurricane hunters flew into the heart of hurricane milton as it

still off the coast of florida. and captain world joins me now. thank you. so much because chad was saying essentially, you know, maybe you think you know what turbulence feels like and then you fly through a hurricane. can you just tell us what it was like and what it felt like to actually be flying through the warm up close absolutely. and thank you for having me yeah, a lot of people who will describe it as a roller coaster going through a carwash it. can be extremely jarring. everything is strapped down and we can have severe turbulence, severe updrafts, downdrafts. >> and you're really just fighting to maintain control of the aircraft as you go through the eyewall what is your flung through this storm? >> how did it compare to the other ones that you've gone through before? >> to be honest, it was pretty violent milton is growing and serious intensity very fast and we saw some incredible wind speeds out there today, hundred

and 148 miles an hour. i believe we saw some storms are not so bad, and some are just worse than others in this just happened to be one that was pretty violent on us and a few other crews that have flown into it so far. so were taking a lot of precautions when we go through and and i asked him along that info to everyone else falling behind us yeah. >> and you can see right now we're showing video from the flight that you can see the lightning inside the store. i mean, was that would you say that was it was increased. was there more of that than what you're used to seeing? what was that like? >> i would say that the amount of lightning was probably on par with what we've seen in most storms but lighting can be very serious if it does hit the aircraft, we can lose our weather radar and then we have a serious problem of not knowing exactly where the strongest part of the cells within the storm are in really how to get out of it safely. so

it can be quite a problem, but so far what i saw today wasn't anything beyond out of the ordinary given what you saw and talking about how violent this was, if you live somewhere where you are in an evacuation zone, would you evacuate very real killer. >> a lot of people just focus on the wind and the rain and really thinking about the shingles on their, on their roof when in reality it's a waves coming through their door, not only through their front door, maybe their windows as well for talking nine you know, 15 feet, whatever it may be, it's of that area if you need to. i highly suggest anyone that staying line evacuated captain a. ortal. thank you so much thank you. up next, vice president harris is on a media tour cracking a b or with stephen cold bear as he says, he believes this election will be won on vibes will take you to that also tonight, there's

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people what that's like this was. now, we ask ahead of time because i can't just be given a drink to the vice president. i'd states but asked me you asked for miller last hi, my beer was at a baseball game with doug shares. >> there you go city of milwaukee tonight, died already beer for you guys. >> but karen, i mean, we're watching here as doing this, you know, she was criticized for not doing a lot of media, certainly not traditional media, but she's, she's doing these interviews. you did howard stern earlier. she did the view. we'll talk about that appearance in a moment. alyssa but but to see her in that moment tonight, what what do you think that there if you're a her adviser, what's that strategy look like by the

scenes? it's about the fact that we live in a very fractured media environment where people are choosing where and how they get their information. unfortunately, surely it's not always from cnn, although i wish it was it's their watching there on tiktok. they're watching late night, they're listening to podcasts that they loved their religiously, right? they're doing all kinds of player watching the view. so you really got to be everywhere. and i will say as a communications professional, my job has changed dramatic adequately over the last 1020 years because you really have to say the candidates know, really you do have to go on this podcast. yes, really we're going to take this real for instagram and yes, i promise you it's going to matter because that's where voters are and you have to be where the voters are. >> yeah. well, i mean, brian, just as the chief media analysts, what's your view of the strategy and what it does look like in 2024, it's an all of the above strategy, right? a little bit of this, a little bit of that. i just spoke to alyssa. you had brought beer this morning on the view, is it too early to drink on the view like it's too early, early guess it depends on your social

are not really collins. it's actually interesting the beers interesting because biden doesn't drink, right? because trump does not drink very famously, does not drink. so in a weird way, we're back to the george w bush test about who do you want to have a beer with the old adage and she was at the table with you all this morning which first what stood out to you during your conversation? >> who listen, we say not to margaret the view, but the road to the white house is through the view. every president since george bush has come on the show, that's gone on to be elected, including donald trump. i mean, we've invited trump officials on. >> listen. it's your reaching a different audience were in more than 3 million households. it's our audience skews heavily toward women. it's women who don't necessarily follow politics day in and day out, but they want to know the key stories people are talking about. about reaching voters who maybe aren't glued to every detail of this election. i thought it was brilliant. she went on call her daddy. that's that's 5 million downloads a week. i think what they're realizing is they have to flood the zone and they're going for broke at this point. i think she should have deployed this

strategy over a month ago to be reaching more voters. it feels like it's a little bit late, but i expect she's going to keep doing that interesting. >> it's like they're almost running what would be a year-long campaign in the man of weeks we have because normally, first off you are it's all about the vibe and the feeling and the rah, rah ryan, you get momentum right? then you start to lay out policy, right. because you definitely want to have policy out before you're at because you want to you want to be able to refer to your policy when you're at the debate, they have to still keep rolling out policy, obviously because the condensed timeframe and then you start to do more interviews. so i actually think it's if you think about what a traditional campaign over a year is like it's like a condensed little accordion version. >> well, and that's interesting and we'll see how voters view this and what they think of it. but these are obviously these moments are important because she she's asked questions and today she was asked about what she would do differently than president biden would if she were president. and this is what she said initially

comes to mind in terms of and i've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact moments later harris did think of something and she followed up with this biden and me will that will be one of the differences. i'm going to have a republican my cabinet because i don't i don't feel burdened, but letting pride get in the way of a good idea okay. >> karen, you are a democrat at the table. yeah. i think some people watch that really, there's nothing differently, but really you're going to go on national television and dime out. you're both i don't think so, ladies, i love the view too, but nice. try right? i mean, ironically, she was actually there here to talk about a policy that is a differentiator from what president biden has done, one that i can tell you, having taken care of my father when he was dying would have been tremendously helpful. so i wish you would have referred to that but yeah, i didn't expect that she was going to like, okay,

here's my list of things. she wouldn't say well, at home but i think the question for some is she's still trying to appeal to those moderates. >> maybe disaffected republicans. they may have actually wanted to hear her say something she's a six-year-old woman of color, just everything about her radiates. >> a difference from president biden. i would have loved to hear her be a little more honest about the last 3.5 years have been like the reason why so many that's are excited about her is because she is not president biden. >> and i have to ask you elicit, though, because there was speaking of those disaffected republicans who are not voting for trump, but not yet voting for harris. mitt romney said something super interesting today when he was asked about whether or not he's in a vote for her. this is what he had to say. >> i made it very clear that that i don't want donald trump to be the next president or then i'd states and you're going to have to do the very difficult calculation of what that would mean. my own view is that i want to continue to have a voice in the republican party following this election because i think there's a good shot

that the republican party is gonna need to be rebuilt and reoriented. either after this election or donald trump is reelected after he is the president. and believe i will have more influence in the party by virtue of saying it, as i've said, it just say you're going to vote for i know. >> listen, i think it's a perfectly defensible position. i feel similarly as a republican who can't support trump, i think a lot of us feel like our voices are most powerful and calling out the dangers of trump and why he shouldn't be back in the white house will leave it to people who are diehard supporters and wanted to fend kamala harris's policies to talk about why she should proactively be elected but here's the thing. what she is doing that smart is i already saw harris at republicans for harris shared that and said we'll take it they're not trying to do the like, you have to full throatedly endorses where we don't want you, they want this big tent, they want the tent that's dick cheney, two you know, members of the squad. so that's the cracy coalition. >> i know we're not used to talking in those terms in the united states, but that's what is forming in this country, will see if it's broad enough.

and that's what's forming. >> mentioned one thing this new york times sienna poll that came out over the weekend, 93% of democrats are with kamala harris was about 80% have a favorable or you're pro trump viewpoint? there are still about 20% of republicans who are not completely inclined to support trump. we have seen this since the primary that might be this undercurrent that we're not really measuring in this election that could actually be what means that he's going to lose. >> he's on a media blitz right now, but he's not trying to appeal to that 20% bringing a new photo appear on newsmax local radio stations. i've never heard of. and he's on the air saying he has been to gaza. he saying things that in any other campaign we would say is that gigantic biden answering nor lying that you've been to gaza as a more significant floods are significant worry. >> we're going to take a little was that a team? we're going to take don't fact check lane, on the gaza. >> thank you, brian, for setting that up. up next though we are going to talk about some new revelations involving donald trump's relationship with putin. among them, secret

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>> that was senator jd vance, trump's running mate responding to a stunning new details about the former president's contact with russian president putin after he left the white house which is raised new questions about trump's relationship with him just weeks before this election. this is all detailed in the legendary journalists bob woodward's new book, war, that is out next week. i should note woodward has been credibly breaking news since before he first reported on watergate. cnn's special correspondent, jamie gangel, obtained an advanced copy of the book is here with more revelations and jamie obviously, that was one of them about all the conversations that he's had up to seven with putin since then. but the other part of this that you reported on this morning that was so fascinating as that the height of the pandemic when americans are struggling to get covid test putin actually, trump actually sent some to putin in russia, right? >> and i think there are two key words here, not only according to woodward's book, did trump send some to putin, but it was a secret shipment

for putin's personal use and what woodward has in his book is a verbatim phone call between trump and putin at the time in which they discussed it. so putin says to trump please don't tell anybody you sent these to me. trump. i don't care. fine putin no, no, i don't want you to tell hello, anybody because people will get mad at you, not me. they don't care about me it's just a remark. is remarkable to have that verbatim exchange, which would word has there, there are a lot of transcripts documents, other things that backup this book. but it is sort of interesting just to hear russian president putin, former kgb agent. i mean, what is going on in that exchange is he really concerned about

donald trump? is he still the kgb agent? playing him is it reverse psychology to write >> then they've spoken to the seven times what we're reported so this is a fascinating story. >> this comes, woodward writes that a top trump aide told him that this his post-presidency so a top trump aide tells woodward that trump sends him out of the room and tells him he has to leave because he's about to have a phone call with the russian president and according to woodward's book, the topic aide said to woodward that there have been as many as seven calls between trump and putin since since he left the white house may look, it is true but jd vance said that

former presidents do speak to other foreign leaders. but normally it it's not a secret or they give the white house or state department a heads-up a courtesy of what happens. >> that's a very, very good point. good reporting. jamie gangel. thank you sure. and joining me now is the former supreme allied commander of nato and retired four-star admiral james stavridis, who has a new book out today, the restless wave. and we'll talk about that in a moment. but given you are someone who has actually been sanctioned by the kremlin, i just wonder what you make of both of those revelations that jamie reported on today, including the national security implications of donald trump's speaking to putin, given that was at the same time, he's urging republicans not to give ukraine any more money for its war. >> jamie's husband danny silva, is a marvelous novelist. you couldn't make up fiction like this. frankly and secondly, i think as an american you wish that instead of sending covid tests. he would have sent him some

bleach, which was his recommendation. trump's to take bleach to get through everything in all seriousness. i worry about it a lot as a national security practitioner, number one, what intelligence is putin? a trained interrogator, a former kgb operative? what is he getting number two opportunity for the united states if trump is having these conversations and not debriefing them and number three, now that the story breaks as it inevitably does kaitlan the optics of this are terrible for our efforts in ukraine. here's our former president, allegedly having seven phone calls with arguably enemy number one of the united states. >> and i covered trump when he was in the white house. i remember he wanted to prosecute john kerry for conversations he had with iranian officials that he did brief, then for terror state mike pompeo wants so just just to see this is what's

really remarkable about this reverend. >> it is and recall the course trump's loose, casual carelessness with the highest levels of national security. he has multiple high level documents recovered from mar-a-lago so it's not as though he's someone who is protecting the classified information of the united states, and he is in allegedly multiple conversations, again, with a trained intelligence operative leading a nation with whom we have fundamental disagreement. >> that's a good point. and as we're in this 2024 election, we heard from harris saying that she thinks iran is the biggest threat to the u.s. right now, jd vance said today he disagrees with her that he iran is a threat that he thinks china is a much, much bigger threat. and i was thinking about your book, the restless way, because it is written about woodward ii and these great powers in this battle in the pacific and modern technology and modern technology for then yeah, it just made me think of the moment that we're in right now and that we could be on the

precipice of very soon. >> that's exactly why wrote the book, you know, winston churchill world's most quotable mann said, in order to look foreign to the future, you have to look to the past and your point. as we look back at years ago to that world war ii, we don't have to imagine how apocalyptic a war between the u.s. and china, great power war in the pacific was we can observe it, we can look at the history. we can then reverse engineer it. hopefully, and avoid it. and by the way, i think china is an enormous strategic challenge to the united states. iran is a tactical and operational challenge. it's quite possible to have to challenges at the same time. >> yeah, which could also be a challenge in and of itself morale stove read as the book is amazing, thank you for joining on it. >> thanks, kaitlan. >> and up next, we're going to speak with a republican lawmaker out of north carolina who wrote a detailed letter to his constituents today, debunking conspiracies about the government's response to hurricane in helene is the

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for the impact of a second monster storm nearly back-to-back. the wave of misinformation and disinformation from the last one has been ramping hampering at times search and recovery efforts and in many cases being pushed by president biden's political opponents for their own political gain death people know their lives are at stake. >> all that they work for all day own value i source tonight, a republican congressman from

one of the areas hardest hit by hurricane helene rep. >> chuck edwards of north carolina is taking it upon himself to try to debunk some of what's being pushed about, what's happening in his state he represents western north carolina and thank you, congressman for being here because i was struck by your post today and you wrote that you don't think the fema response has been perfect, but you said the rumors are just so outrageous that they had to be addressed and you shoot down that helene was somehow engineered by the government that you say fema is not stopping trucks and cars confiscating supplies, the faa is not restricting airspace from recovery operations fema is not diverting disaster funds to the border to foreign aid. how much of this were you hearing from your constituents? >> well, the rumors certainly have been growing now. i'm not going to defend females, honor they've made a lot of mistakes. they continue to make a lot of mistakes. and i recovery efforts here but i'll

simply finding that all all of the rumor or the falsities were more getting in the way of us trying to help the people here in western north carolina recover from helene. >> well, i think you can there was a world where you could not like something fema is done or criticize it, or ask them to do better. but also not spread fed blatant conspiracies and lies that you had to debunk. i just how bad was it that you felt the need to put this information out there of calls and emails and texts from folks that claimed to have firsthand accounts that they were turned away with supplies are not able to help and every single one of those rabbit holes, i went down based at trying to find contact information and i wasn't able to corroborate one single one of those stories and again,

there are a lot of things i'd like to see. fema do differently, but they're not out guarding roads and turning people away and conference skating equipment and merchandise. >> given that so much of these myths and lies are being spread by members of your own party. does it anger you because it makes your life harder? >> well, our life here in western north carolina is a difficult to enough, right now. >> i can't speak to what anyone else's experience has been. >> any other member of congress or political candidate i can only say from my perspective of the boots on the ground down here in western north carolina that i don't see the things happening that folks have been out there on social media saying and have been happening? >> yeah. i just think the first thing you fact checked was something i've even heard from from people in alabama where i'm from you know, this idea of this storm being go

engineered by the government. i mean, that was essentially something that your colleague marjorie taylor greene was arguing, you know, saying they can control the weather, it can be manipulated. obviously, trump was saying the money was being used for undocumented immigrants. it's just i mean, it's like nothing you've ever seen before well, i think that we all agree there is money being used for undocumented immigrants that should not be happening and as far as any other member of congress, i'm not i'm not sure their perspective. >> i'm only speaking from my perspective pure in western north carolina and trying to help so many people that are affected by storm recover. there was a great concern by a number of folks that if they were led to believe that female was confident skating much needed goods and water that folks might quit sending goods and water to western north

carolina. and i certainly don't need that to be taking place right now. >> and what i was saying earlier, would that it was what was being spread is was that was from marjorie taylor greene, us shot that down obviously immediately but quickly. you said that fema is not doing a perfect job. what specifically would you like to see them do differently? >> oh my goodness that louis gets pretty long first first of all, it took way too long for them to get here to western north carolina we knew this storm was coming two days ahead. >> it still took more than three days. my calculation is it took about 80 hours before well, we saw the first representatives from fema one county that i represent. it took six days for them to get there. we still don't have mobile trailers that folks have asked for. that my counties have asked for we still don't have fema stations set up where folks can come in and make applications and good the answers. i have one

constituent, i tell me they made an application. they were initially denied, and then they got three additional letters from fema and emails. all contradictive total to one another. >> okay congressman this obviously well, we'll check in with you. we want to follow up with those things. i do want to thank you for your time tonight. i know you're very busy, congressman chuck edwards. edwards thank you up, next new reporting on donald trump and what brian stelter referenced earlier, that claim that he took a trip to gaza then the next day are world change, murphy has baby quayle has cow bones coming out episodes says to the world it's okay to be gay. george bush does not care about black people wrote would lead to a culture ward. you didn't shoot back like this?

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have mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 this just in to cnn tonight. >> ethel kennedy, the widow of robert f kennedy, has been hospitalized after suffering a stroke in her sleep last week. her grandson, the former congressman joe kennedy, the third, said that mrs. kennedy was brought to the hospital where she is now receiving treatment. she is comfortable and getting the best care possible while surrounded did by her family. ethel kennedy is 96-years-old when donald trump was asked about gaza during a recent radio interview, he made a curious claim about once visiting the war torn location the best location in the middle east, best water, the best everything. it's got it is the best i've said for years. i still when i've been there and it's rough, it's rough place

before the before all of the attacks, before back-and-forth. what's happened over the last couple of years. and i said, wow, look at this you might have also noticed when he said, i've been there well, we looked into trump's claim that he's visited gaza, but so far, we haven't been able to find any record of trump ever doing so. >> not as president of the united states, not in his previous life as a business mogul but when we asked his campaign if he simply misspoke, but insisted he did not instead, a campaign spokesperson told cnn this quote, president trump has been to gaza previously and has always worked to ensure peace in the middle east but we asked follow-up questions, including whether there was any proof about trump's alleged trip including who we went with which year and why a trip like this obviously would have been extraordinary given it's very difficult for anyone to visit gaza, much less. president. and of course, hamas has been in power since 2007 the campaign declined to provide any evidence that trump has ever

been to gaza. my source tonight is cnn's chris wallace, whose new book account 1960 is on the leadup to the 1960 election and is out now and is really interesting. and i want to talk about that in a moment, but chris, on this story and just the idea that at one point the campaign was saying to the new york times that they've gaza was was in israel, which obviously it's not then they're just saying yes, he was there, but but they're not providing any evidence of that. just what do you make of that that this entire saga, i think it was a good story, got caught up in it. we've seen other candidates like tim walz, get caught up and suddenly he was there and, there are two things that i find kind of extraordinary. butter. one was the original response from the campaign, which was, well, he's been in israel and gaza is in israel, but is at complete that gaza has always been a separate territory. and secondly, the whole premise of the question, which was, could you turn gaza because it's right there in the

mediterranean into another monaco and other monte carlo. and he says, oh, yeah, it's got everything kaza is one of the most densely populated territories on earth. the unemployment rate for young people is 70%. it's a place wrapped with poverty wracked with overcrowded about the fact that got hamas terrorist organization controlling it. other than that, it's a real garden spot. >> yeah, it reminded me of when there was the commonwealth beachfront property trump made previously, jared kushner also via a similar claim about gaza. but on your book, it's really interesting because this is all about the leadup to the 1960 election. but as you're reading through this and looking at this, it has so many striking parallels to what we're about to experience the next 28 days also reminded me a lot of 2020, obviously in the election there because essentially the what you're writing is that the 1960 election may very well have been stolen yet when you look at how these two leaders then

nixon and kennedy handled this, it's very different than what we saw four years ago. >> well, that's i wrote it for two reasons. kaitlan. one was it's a great story you've got these two fascinating figures, richard nixon and jack kennedy, it's filled with the mob getting involved to help the kennedys kennedy as kind of a love triangle with what the head of the chicago mob, sam giancana, frank sinatra's and had fidel castro's in the story. but in addition, it struck i made that there was tremendous relevance to 2020. and what we're going through right now because it really turns 2020 on its head. that was an election that really may. i'm not going to say it was, but may have been stolen and richard nixon, hardly a hero in american history, decided in the end to do the right thing. which was not to contest the election. and two engage in the peaceful transfer of power. >> yeah, it makes you think of nixon's legacy, a little bit

differently as you read the steps that he's taken, what he certainly could have done and the other interesting part to me was you talk about how it was that really became the modern era of politics that we see with televised debate. aides that people were watching and it made me think of the televised debates that, that we're watching now, or maybe not many more, you want hosted a presidential debate in the last election. obviously that was why you must write. but the 2021 was just, i would say out of this world, i don't know. i guess 2016 was as well chris wallace, the book is fascinating and very timely. thank you so much. >> thank you thank you so much for joining us. >> the news continues here on cnn quote, you will not survive the dark and dire warnings aimed at millions in the path of hurricane milton. >> now strengthening again when extremely dangerous, category five plus the kremlin calling legendary journalist bob woodward with new reporting tonight, that trump and putin